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PowerChat: *** Entered MoneyWhiz 2 on 11/7/96 at 08:47 PM ***
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MW Bkrpt1C: Hi! How are you tonight?
MW Bkrpt1C: You know, I don't know your first name!
MW Bkrpt1C: Halloooo??? BE???
BEmory8705: My name is Bonnie
BEmory8705: Looks kinda quiet right now.
MW Bkrpt1C: Hi bonnie! What exactly did the trustee say about abandoning the car?
BEmory8705: That's all, just he was going to abandon that one because we owed more than the car is worth
BEmory8705: I have heard nothing.
MW Bkrpt1C: And did he say anything about the bank?
BEmory8705: Nothing at all.
MW Bkrpt1C: As far as I know, creditors must speak up before the hearing if they plan on
MW Bkrpt1C: taking repossession.
MW Bkrpt1C: Have you asked your attorney, or told him/her your fears about
MW Bkrpt1C: having the car repo-ed?
BEmory8705: The finance company is giving me fits about the organ. They are trying to go after my mother
MW Bkrpt1C: Was she a co-signer on the organ? Did they make any efforts to
MW Bkrpt1C: contact you before the BK hearing?
BEmory8705: she signed on the loan also. Right now she is in the hospital. She almost died Sunday.
MW Bkrpt1C: Or contact your attorney?
MW Bkrpt1C: My heart goes out to you! The last thing you need is the stress of collectors!
BEmory8705: As far as the car goes if they want it they can get it.
MW Bkrpt1C: You need to contact your attorney and let him/her know that the organ financer
MW Bkrpt1C: is harrassing you. One quick letter with a copy of the bankruptcy notice
MW Bkrpt1C: should make them go away!
MW Bkrpt1C: The reason it takes 6-8 weeks to get a bk hearing is because the court
BEmory8705: They contacted me only with the delinquent payment notice and asked it I was going to return
MW Bkrpt1C: gives creditors a chance to challenge the bk and ask for the merchandise back.
BEmory8705: the organ or reaffirm the loan.
MW Bkrpt1C: Bonnie... and this was before the hearing?
MW Bkrpt1C: Or after?
BEmory8705: The money they paid on the organ was 2556.00. They want to reaffirm for 4000.00
Eattie t: IF YOU HAVE HAD CREDIT PROBLEMS IN THE PAST DOES THAT PREVENT YOU FROM GETTING A CONVENTIONAL MORTGAG
BEmory8705: I have contacted the attorney, he doesn't return my calls.
MW Bkrpt1C: Bonnie.. was this before the hearing or after?
BEmory8705: The threats are coming after the hearing.
MW Bkrpt1C: Bonnie.. it sounds like you need to send a letter to your attorney and let him
BEmory8705: They claim they have a court date.
MW Bkrpt1C: know that he needs to finish his job or youll have to contact the ABA.
MW Bkrpt1C: Eattie... past credit problems don't always prevent you from getting a mortgage.
BEmory8705: I have sent the attorney the copy of the contract that shows the finance company only paid
MW Bkrpt1C: What were the past problems, and do you have any idea what your
MW Bkrpt1C: credit reports look like now?
Eattie t: I'M PUTTING DOWN 25 PERCENT
MW Bkrpt1C: BE.. were these threats in writing or on phone?
MW Bkrpt1C: Eattie... how much you can put down won't necessarily matter...
BEmory8705: 2556.00 and they want to reaffirm for all the interest too. All was done on the phone.
Eattie t: YES THEY HAVE ALL BEEN PAID
MW Bkrpt1C: Eattaie.. how are they reported on your credit reports?
MW Bkrpt1C: As paid in full?
MW Bkrpt1C: How long ago were they?
BEmory8705: I won't tell any of this to my mom. If need be I will pay them to get them off my back and
MW Bkrpt1C: Bonnie.. FABULOUS! They're bluffing, I'll wager! Tell them to send you information
Eattie t: OF COURSE I FEEL AS THOUGH I HAVE TO DEAL WITH A MORTGAGE BROKER AND I FEEL AS IF IM BEING TAKEN
MW Bkrpt1C: in writing. I'm 99% certain you'll never hear from them again.
MW Bkrpt1C: It's a common tactic that creditors use to bully you into paying them
MW Bkrpt1C: after the bankruptcy.
BEmory8705: protect my mother. I love her more than an organ and I never want her hurt by these idiots.
Eattie t: YES THEY HAVE BEEN ALL PAID IN FULL SOME RECENTLY
MW Bkrpt1C: Call them and tell them that it is no longer convenient for them to talk to you
MW Bkrpt1C: or your mother by phone. That all contact must be in writing.
MW Bkrpt1C: Eattie... What type of mortgage broker are you dealing with? What company?
BEmory8705: I have caller ID and I blocked the number so they can't call here again.
MW Bkrpt1C: BE.. it's far better if you take the bull by the horn and contact them.. this way
MW Bkrpt1C: you get them out of yoru life and your mother's life and you can have some peace
Eattie t: CONTINENTAL CREDIT CORP.
MW Bkrpt1C: and quiet. You've paid your dues; you've gone bk and it's over. Don't
MW Bkrpt1C: let them bully you!
BEmory8705: I did and I told them if they wanted the thing back come and get it. She hung up on me.
MW Bkrpt1C: Told you, Bonnie, they're bluffing. Demand that they only contact
MW Bkrpt1C: you in writing. I swear, you'll never hear from them again. Also, tell
MW Bkrpt1C: them that you want it in writing so you can send it to your bk lawyer!
BEmory8705: Not another person or company has given us a moments trouble except American General Financ
MW Bkrpt1C: Eattie...I talked at great lengths to a mortgage broker who specializes
MW Bkrpt1C: in lending to people with past negative credit history... she said that
BEmory8705: The attorney's secretary said they can't have a court date until papers have been served.
MW Bkrpt1C: there are athree really good reputable mortgage brokers...
BEmory8705: No papers have been served to this date.
MW Bkrpt1C: Crestar, Universal American Mortgage Company (UAMC) and Prestige Financial.
MW Bkrpt1C: Look in your yellow pages... do you have any of these guys near you?
MW Bkrpt1C: BE.. that's right.. no papers no court date! You ever play poker?
MW Bkrpt1C: Call their bluff! They'll run away with their tails between their legs.
MW Bkrpt1C: Don't you want them to leave you alone?
Eattie t: I'M NOT SURE, BUT I WILL CHECK IT OUT
BEmory8705: Not lately on the poker.
BEmory8705: I stand up to them and do quite a bit of yelling I must add.
MW Bkrpt1C: Eattie.. go run and look right now!
BEmory8705: Last week with my mother so sick I really lost it.
MW Bkrpt1C: BE.. no need to yell at them. You're in the right and they're trying to
MW Bkrpt1C: pull a fast one and bypass your bankruptcy.
BEmory8705: I was so mad I wanted to deliver that organ back to them in pieces.
MW Bkrpt1C: BE.. who plays the organ in your house?
ISSY2BLANK: Hi I'm back
BEmory8705: What about where my mother name is on the contract but the bill only came in my name.
Eattie t: I FOUND PRESTIGE CAPITAL, IS THAT THE SAME
BEmory8705: I try to play the organ.
MW Bkrpt1C: BE... you declared bankruptcy. They did not object before the
MW Bkrpt1C: hearing. The debt was discharged. It no longer exists. They can't
MW Bkrpt1C: come after ANYONE for the money.
MW Bkrpt1C: Bonnie.. what's your favorite song to play?
BEmory8705: Unchained Melody
MW Bkrpt1C: Eattie.. I'm not sure! You can call and ask them in the morning..
MW Bkrpt1C: how about the other two? Crestar or UAMC?
Eattie t: THAT'S A NEGATIVE
MW Bkrpt1C: 10-4 Eattie. Promise me you'll call Prestige and see if they're
MW Bkrpt1C: Prestige Financial tomorrow, okay?
BEmory8705: That debt was not discharged because it is a secured loan. ( suppose to be )
Eattie t: I'LL DEFINELY CHECK IT OUT IN THE MORNING
Eattie t: DEFINITELY
MW Bkrpt1C: BE.. if it's a secured loan then write them a letter telling them they
MW Bkrpt1C: have 48 hours to remove the organ or it becomes your personal
MW Bkrpt1C: property free and clear.
MW Bkrpt1C: Eatie.. when you call, tell them that you're looking for an
MW Bkrpt1C: EXPERIENCED mortgage broker.
MW Bkrpt1C: They should have you file a mini application (one that consts nothing) to see where
MW Bkrpt1C: you fit, creditwise.
BEmory8705: The attorney said he would contact them and he would handle it. Should I trust him?
MW Bkrpt1C: What you're looking for is a mortgage broker with competitive rates.
MW Bkrpt1C: Don't go for anyone who specializes in BAD CREDIT, NO
MW Bkrpt1C: PROBLEM.
MW Bkrpt1C: What you want is a broker who deals with A lenders who have access to BCD sources.
BEmory8705: He doesn't call me so he could have handled it and gotten them to back off for all I know.
BEmory8705: I am up at the hospital so much over the past week and a half I don't know whats going on.
MW Bkrpt1C: BE.. write your lawyer and tell him that you would like him to update
MW Bkrpt1C: you on this account so you don't have ato worry about it, considering
MW Bkrpt1C: how sick your mother is.
MW Bkrpt1C: And be sure to play Unchained Melody every night before you go to
MW Bkrpt1C: bed and every morning when you get up, to center yourself!
BEmory8705: That is a good idea. He always talks about his mother so he might get sentimental and help.
Sara3658: Hello Everyone!
MW Bkrpt1C: People like to help, in my experience. But it's easy to forget that
MW Bkrpt1C: you'r dealing with humans.. we al lneed reminders!
MW Bkrpt1C: Hey Sara! How are you tonight?
Sara3658: I"m great!
Eattie t: MW , THANK YOU, HAVE A GREAT NIGHT
BEmory8705: I hope the bank leaves me the car. I will drive it til it drops. I am getting more like
Sara3658: Just here to get tips to pay my debts off fast....
BEmory8705: Scrooge all the time.
MW Bkrpt1C: BE.. don't get like Scrooge! The more you give, the more you can receive!
MW Bkrpt1C: Sara.. what kinda debts ya got and how much can you pay toward them?
Sara3658: About $30,000.00 in debt, 1 is a loan, the rest cc's.....We make about $1650.00 after taxes.
Sara3658: I'm looking for a miracle....Hee Hee
MW Bkrpt1C: As miracles follow miracles and wonders never cease.. you can get out of debt!
Sara3658: Is playing the lottery worth it?
MW Bkrpt1C: Sara.. not usually... far better to take that extra $10 a week and pay
MW Bkrpt1C: it toward your credit cards.. you'd be amazed at how quickly you can
MW Bkrpt1C: make a dent in your debt with $10 a week!
MW Bkrpt1C: You guys get shy all of a sudden?
Sara3658: Nah, Just thinking....
Sara3658: I think last week you told me to go read something and I couldn't find it on the message...
MW Bkrpt1C: My debtbuster strateagy?
Sara3658: board and you said that you could send it to me e-mail....
Sara3658: Yeah!
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PowerChat: *** Entered MoneyWhiz 2 on 11/7/96 at 09:42 PM ***
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JT CAR1: cancer nearly ruined me
Sara3658: MW: Help me get out of debt....
MW Bkrpt1C: Hi again! Got punted!
Sara3658: You're back!
MW Mad Dog: Looks like Paula's not here...Any questions abaout credit problems?
MW Bkrpt1C: Sara.. I was t rying to send you the mail when I got punted!
MW Mad Dog: HI Paula
MW Bkrpt1C: Hi Geiorge!
Sara3658: Where can I get the stragety?
Sara3658: I'm sorry, thanks...
MW Bkrpt1C: Hold on, I'll try aagain!
Sara3658: Thank you
MW Bkrpt1C: Bingo!!!! Check your mail, Sara!!!
MW Bkrpt1C: So, 5 minute warning!!! Anybody got a burning desire to share????
Sara3658: Thanks! Can I buy the book?
Sara3658: You're all quiet.
MW Bkrpt1C: Sara.. anybody can buy the book!!! Ordering info is in my profile, or if you
MW Bkrpt1C: want moreinfo, just email me your address and I'll send it to you!
Sara3658: How much is it?
JT CAR1: how do i get good credit after bankrpt
MW Bkrpt1C: $14.95, $15.70 if you're in MD.
MW Bkrpt1C: JT.. your first step needs to be to get copies of yoru credit reporst so you can see
Sara3658: Out of curiousity, how many pages is it?
MW Mad Dog: JT...start with a secured card, then expand. Join our forum in debt and credit
MW Bkrpt1C: if everything is being reported correctly. This lets you see EXACTLY what
MW Bkrpt1C: the crditors are seeing.
MW Bkrpt1C: George.. secured card is a good next step, yup.
JT CAR1: i filed only on med bills
MW Bkrpt1C: Sara... it's 64 pages and comes with a money back guarantee!
Sara3658: Ok....Is a check okay?
MW Mad Dog: JT...did you reaffirm with your applied for credit?
MW Bkrpt1C: JT.. That will give you added weight, but you need to make sure that the bills
MW Bkrpt1C: are reported as "cdisharged under bk" not as under collection or charged off.
JT CAR1: yes
MW Bkrpt1C: Sara.. yup, checks are fine; we send the book out as soon as we get the check.
MW Mad Dog: JT...If you reaffirmed with retail credit you should be in pretty good shape. Called a medical BK
MW Bkrpt1C: Well, it's that time again! Thanks everyone for coming, George, glad you're
MW Bkrpt1C: here!
JT CAR1: thankyou
Sara3658: ok, I will do it soon! Probably next payday.... Thanks!
MW Bkrpt1C: Don't forget to join us again next Thursday at 10pm EST here in Chat Room II
MW Mad Dog: Sorry I was late. got in late'
MW Bkrpt1C: and in the boards of Moneywhiz.. Check out MadDog's boards too!!! Theyu're great!!!
MW Mad Dog: Bye all
MW Bkrpt1C: Glad to see you george, anytime!!!
MW Bkrpt1C: Night All!!!!